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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 14th Feb 2008 05:44:45

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Hanetsuki is a game which is unique to Japan, is played at New Year and has a history going back to the middle ages.
Modern day "Hanetsuki" consists of an ornately decorated paddle shaped bat known in Japan as a "Hagoita" and an equally decorated shuttlecock, known in Japan as a "Hane". (Hence my nickname)
It is a "keeping up game" in that the object is to keep the "Hane" in the air by repeatedly hitting it with the Hagoita. When children play they stand in a circle and hit it to each other . If a player misses and it falls to the ground, he/she is penalised by having their face blackened with a burnt cork.
Originally the game was played by soldiers as a military exercise. It then passed to the ladies, who donned their national costumes and played it at New Year. (1st to 7th January - Pine Decoration Season)
The game then passed to the children who also donned their finery to play it at New Year. However with the advent of the computer the
children lost interest and today the implements remain purely as home decoration for the New Year.
But the specialised craft of making the ornate instruments goes on
being made by craftsmen working throughout the year. Their work is then sold, mainly at a specialised fair held annually in the middle of December. The stalls are set up outside the Sensoji Temple in the Asagawa District of Tokyo.
From the earliest period of the Japanese Phone Card this game has been pictured on various cards. I have been attempting the difficult task of making a collection of them. Why difficult? Well no dealer seems to separate the "Hanetsuki" cards out into an individual theme.
I once trawled thru the 45,000 cards on Delcampe and found 5 of them. Can anyone please help in my task?

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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 14th Feb 2008 15:35:05

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In response to Hane [100% (115x)] :
Hanetsuki is a game which is unique to Japan, is played at New Year and has a history going back to the middle ages.
Modern day "Hanetsuki" consists of an ornately decorated paddle shaped bat known in Japan as a "Hagoita" and an equally decorated shuttlecock, known in Japan as a "Hane". (Hence my nickname)
It is a "keeping up game" in that the object is to keep the "Hane" in the air by repeatedly hitting it with the Hagoita. When children play they stand in a circle and hit it to each other . If a player misses and it falls to the ground, he/she is penalised by having their face blackened with a burnt cork.
Originally the game was played by soldiers as a military exercise. It then passed to the ladies, who donned their national costumes and played it at New Year. (1st to 7th January - Pine Decoration Season)
The game then passed to the children who also donned their finery to play it at New Year. However with the advent of the computer the
children lost interest and today the implements remain purely as home decoration for the New Year.
But the specialised craft of making the ornate instruments goes on
being made by craftsmen working throughout the year. Their work is then sold, mainly at a specialised fair held annually in the middle of December. The stalls are set up outside the Sensoji Temple in the Asagawa District of Tokyo.
From the earliest period of the Japanese Phone Card this game has been pictured on various cards. I have been attempting the difficult task of making a collection of them. Why difficult? Well no dealer seems to separate the "Hanetsuki" cards out into an individual theme.
I once trawled thru the 45,000 cards on Delcampe and found 5 of them. Can anyone please help in my task?



Kon-nichiwa hane,
perhaps an image of one of these cards would help the delcampers with your search. i lived on okinawa at age 3 with dad in the u.s. air force at kadena a.f.b. in 1953. then years later while serving in the army and being wounded in vietnam in 1969, i was air-evacuated to an army hospital in yokohama. i am most gracious to your people for their assistance and kindness at the hospital in my recovery from a serious wound. it was the same kindness i remember from our mamasan nanny when i was younger. :bowdown: :rose: take care and good luck on your search.

Arigato gozaimasu,
cajusr.
:D
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Fri 15th Feb 2008 09:19:31

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Kon-nichiwa hane,
perhaps an image of one of these cards would help the delcampers with your search. i lived on okinawa at age 3 with dad in the u.s. air force at kadena a.f.b. in 1953. then years later while serving in the army and being wounded in vietnam in 1969, i was air-evacuated to an army hospital in yokohama. i am most gracious to your people for their assistance and kindness at the hospital in my recovery from a serious wound. it was the same kindness i remember from our mamasan nanny when i was younger. :bowdown: :rose: take care and good luck on your search.

Arigato gozaimasu,
cajusr.
:D

Dear Cajunsr,
Thank you for your interest in my message about "Hanetsuki". I have in fact uploaded an A4 picture showing 7 phone cards on the subject. I do not know how you access it however.
Currently I possess 36 cards on the subject of "Hanetsuki" but I am sure that there must be many more. I have a correspondent who works in Tokyo and belongs to the local phone card club. He tells me the he has not found one dealer, so far, who separates out the subject for their customers. Hence my difficulty.
I am sending a second picture so that you can, I hope, see more of my collection.

Sincerely,

Rex (Hane)
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Fri 15th Feb 2008 10:30:21

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Dear Cajunsr,
Thank you for your interest in my message about "Hanetsuki". I have in fact uploaded an A4 picture showing 7 phone cards on the subject. I do not know how you access it however.
Currently I possess 36 cards on the subject of "Hanetsuki" but I am sure that there must be many more. I have a correspondent who works in Tokyo and belongs to the local phone card club. He tells me the he has not found one dealer, so far, who separates out the subject for their customers. Hence my difficulty.
I am sending a second picture so that you can, I hope, see more of my collection.

Sincerely,

Rex (Hane)


hi rex,
if you have an image, you can upload it as a .gif or .jpeg file using the image loader below. just hit the browse button and enter the image file you want. very simple. most everything on delcampe is simple to do, that's what makes it so user friendly and very popular. good luck.:cool2:

amities,
cajunsr.
:D
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Fri 15th Feb 2008 10:37:59

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In response to Cajunsr1 [99% (631x)] Club+ member: Silver  :
hi rex,
if you have an image, you can upload it as a .gif or .jpeg file using the image loader below. just hit the browse button and enter the image file you want. very simple. most everything on delcampe is simple to do, that's what makes it so user friendly and very popular. good luck.:cool2:

amities,
cajunsr.
:D


hi rex,
by the by, my dad was also stationed a few years later around 1956-7 in england, your neck of the woods. unfortunately, he dumped mom and us in louisiana so he could come home quicker. i wish he had taken us instead. i would have liked being in england and europe. my brother is now an international lawyer and has an office in london. small world, ain't it. esp. bein' an army brat.

amities,
cajunsr.
:D
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Fri 15th Feb 2008 12:09:02

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In response to Cajunsr1 [99% (631x)] Club+ member: Silver  :
hi rex,
if you have an image, you can upload it as a .gif or .jpeg file using the image loader below. just hit the browse button and enter the image file you want. very simple. most everything on delcampe is simple to do, that's what makes it so user friendly and very popular. good luck.:cool2:

amities,
cajunsr.
:D


Dear cajunsr1,

Thank you for your replies and advice. There seems to be a problem with the .jpeg images which I am uploading. So far I have gone thru the procedure of uploading 2 of them but you are not able to pick them up.
An alternative would be for you to let me have your eMail address and then I can send all 4 of them to you as attachments.

Sincerely,

Rex
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Fri 15th Feb 2008 13:00:05

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Dear cajunsr1,

Thank you for your replies and advice. There seems to be a problem with the .jpeg images which I am uploading. So far I have gone thru the procedure of uploading 2 of them but you are not able to pick them up.
An alternative would be for you to let me have your eMail address and then I can send all 4 of them to you as attachments.

Sincerely,

Rex

hi rex,
you can contact me through delcampe and i will respond. just click on my name and use the 'contact' button.

amities,
cajunsr.
:D
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Sat 16th Feb 2008 10:29:26

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In response to Cajunsr1 [99% (631x)] Club+ member: Silver  :
hi rex,
you can contact me through delcampe and i will respond. just click on my name and use the 'contact' button.

amities,
cajunsr.
:D

I am trying once more to your with atypical image of Hanetsuki.
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 21st Feb 2008 07:23:31

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I am trying once more to your with atypical image of Hanetsuki.

Hi Rex,

I think that this is a phonecard with Hanetsuki. Am I right?

Best regards from Greece,
Ioannis.
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 21st Feb 2008 07:28:31

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Hi Rex,

I think that this is a phonecard with Hanetsuki. Am I right?

Best regards from Greece,
Ioannis.

Hi Rex,

I have found another image of Hanetsuki, in order to help you, but unfortunately I don't have any of these phonecards in my stock.

Best regards,
Ioannis.:cool:
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 21st Feb 2008 13:59:06

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In response to Gianniblue [100% (5788x)] Club+ member: Gold  :
Hi Rex,

I have found another image of Hanetsuki, in order to help you, but unfortunately I don't have any of these phonecards in my stock.

Best regards,
Ioannis.:cool:

Dear Iannonis,

Thank you for taking an interest in my posting on the subject of "Hanetsuki" .
Unfortunately neither of the phone cards which you portray are pictures of "Hanetsuki". Both are in fact on the subject of "Kicking the Shuttlecock" which is another of the subjects which I collect. This is a game from the far-east which has a 2000 year old history. The second card which you portray is from China where the game goes by the name of "Jianzi". The first card is from South Korea where the game is known as "Jagi Chegi". In other countries in the Far East it goes under other names e.g. "Da Cau" in Cambodia.
There is one of these cards permanently on offer on Delcampe. If you search under the tiele of "Shuttlecock" you will find it.
I realise that without a picture it is difficult to know the game which i am talking about, but for some unexplained reason the pictures which I upload do not show in my reply.
I am going to try once more to send an explanatory piucture but whether I succeed is doubtful.
Finally it may intereste you to know that the game of "kicking the shuttlecock is played in Greece.
With thanks, Sincerely,
Hane.
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 21st Feb 2008 14:12:30

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In response to Hane [100% (115x)] :
Dear Iannonis,

Thank you for taking an interest in my posting on the subject of "Hanetsuki" .
Unfortunately neither of the phone cards which you portray are pictures of "Hanetsuki". Both are in fact on the subject of "Kicking the Shuttlecock" which is another of the subjects which I collect. This is a game from the far-east which has a 2000 year old history. The second card which you portray is from China where the game goes by the name of "Jianzi". The first card is from South Korea where the game is known as "Jagi Chegi". In other countries in the Far East it goes under other names e.g. "Da Cau" in Cambodia.
There is one of these cards permanently on offer on Delcampe. If you search under the tiele of "Shuttlecock" you will find it.
I realise that without a picture it is difficult to know the game which i am talking about, but for some unexplained reason the pictures which I upload do not show in my reply.
I am going to try once more to send an explanatory piucture but whether I succeed is doubtful.
Finally it may intereste you to know that the game of "kicking the shuttlecock is played in Greece.
With thanks, Sincerely,
Hane.

Hi Rex,

I am really sorry. I didn't know that there was a difference between these 2 sports:(From the picture you uploaded, Hanetsuki seems like badmindon to me. Is it the same sport? I wish you a happy collecting!!!

Best regards,
Ioannis.
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Thu 21st Feb 2008 15:31:23

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In response to Gianniblue [100% (5788x)] Club+ member: Gold  :
Hi Rex,

I am really sorry. I didn't know that there was a difference between these 2 sports:(From the picture you uploaded, Hanetsuki seems like badmindon to me. Is it the same sport? I wish you a happy collecting!!!

Best regards,
Ioannis.


Thank you for your message and I am delighted that at last you now have a picture to back up my description.
For the last 40 years I have been interested in all games that are played with a shuttlecock. (There are nearly 30 of them)
Most of them have origins which go back a very long way, and Badminton is quite a modern invention which only dates from the end of the 19th Century. Prior to Badminton there was a game called Battledore and Shuttlecock and Hanetsuki is very like that.
They are both what are called "keeping up games" in that the object is to keep the shuttlecock in the air for as long as possible. Kicking the shuttlecock has the same objective, the only difference is that there is no racquet and the shuttlecock has to be kept in the aire for as long as possible with just the feet and without any contact being made with the hands.
However it was the introduction of the net into Badminton which made all the difference.
During the last 50 years the Chinese have also introduced a net into the game of "Kicking the Shuttlecock". This version of the game is being promoted all around the world and several European countires hae taken it up.
Because the game of "Hanetsuki" is only to be found in Japan, pictures of it are only to be found on Japan phone cards.
Thanks once again for your interest, and I hope that Ihave not bored you.
Sincerely,

Hane (Rex)

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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Fri 22nd Feb 2008 02:57:17

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In response to Hane [100% (115x)] :
Thank you for your message and I am delighted that at last you now have a picture to back up my description.
For the last 40 years I have been interested in all games that are played with a shuttlecock. (There are nearly 30 of them)
Most of them have origins which go back a very long way, and Badminton is quite a modern invention which only dates from the end of the 19th Century. Prior to Badminton there was a game called Battledore and Shuttlecock and Hanetsuki is very like that.
They are both what are called "keeping up games" in that the object is to keep the shuttlecock in the air for as long as possible. Kicking the shuttlecock has the same objective, the only difference is that there is no racquet and the shuttlecock has to be kept in the aire for as long as possible with just the feet and without any contact being made with the hands.
However it was the introduction of the net into Badminton which made all the difference.
During the last 50 years the Chinese have also introduced a net into the game of "Kicking the Shuttlecock". This version of the game is being promoted all around the world and several European countires hae taken it up.
Because the game of "Hanetsuki" is only to be found in Japan, pictures of it are only to be found on Japan phone cards.
Thanks once again for your interest, and I hope that Ihave not bored you.
Sincerely,

Hane (Rex)



You haven't bored me at all. It is really interesting to find out new things about sports! As a matter of fact, I think that I have available 2 greek phonecards with badminton in my online shop, in case you are interested. I wish you a happy collecting!!!

Best regards,
Ioannis.
:cool:
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Tue 4th Mar 2008 17:27:27

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In response to Hane [100% (115x)] :
Thank you for your message and I am delighted that at last you now have a picture to back up my description.
For the last 40 years I have been interested in all games that are played with a shuttlecock. (There are nearly 30 of them)
Most of them have origins which go back a very long way, and Badminton is quite a modern invention which only dates from the end of the 19th Century. Prior to Badminton there was a game called Battledore and Shuttlecock and Hanetsuki is very like that.
They are both what are called "keeping up games" in that the object is to keep the shuttlecock in the air for as long as possible. Kicking the shuttlecock has the same objective, the only difference is that there is no racquet and the shuttlecock has to be kept in the aire for as long as possible with just the feet and without any contact being made with the hands.
However it was the introduction of the net into Badminton which made all the difference.
During the last 50 years the Chinese have also introduced a net into the game of "Kicking the Shuttlecock". This version of the game is being promoted all around the world and several European countires hae taken it up.
Because the game of "Hanetsuki" is only to be found in Japan, pictures of it are only to be found on Japan phone cards.
Thanks once again for your interest, and I hope that Ihave not bored you.
Sincerely,

Hane (Rex)



Hi Rex,

:applause: Nice to find another japanese phonecards collector!!!!:veryhappy:

Sorry, I haven't got a lot of time these days, having started a new job just a few weeks ago, but as soon as I find a little of it I'll go thru my japanese cards in double (about 10'000) & will let you know if I find any.

You could try to contact Khedi2, a french collector who has a lot of cards on Delcampe & speaks a very good english too, shure she can help you.

Don't hesitate to contact me thru Delcampe if you need any advice on japanese phone cards or contacts, I'm not the biggest specialist but I've been collecting them for quite a few years now & have a good knowledge of them & collectors around the globe.

You can also visit my website where you (I hope) can find some good links on japanese phone cards.

Cheers :beer:

Root :beer: Hi Bill! :cool2:

Should I say Ouzo for you :question: Hi John !

Steven
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Tue 4th Mar 2008 17:46:40

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Hi Rex,

:applause: Nice to find another japanese phonecards collector!!!!:veryhappy:

Sorry, I haven't got a lot of time these days, having started a new job just a few weeks ago, but as soon as I find a little of it I'll go thru my japanese cards in double (about 10'000) & will let you know if I find any.

You could try to contact Khedi2, a french collector who has a lot of cards on Delcampe & speaks a very good english too, shure she can help you.

Don't hesitate to contact me thru Delcampe if you need any advice on japanese phone cards or contacts, I'm not the biggest specialist but I've been collecting them for quite a few years now & have a good knowledge of them & collectors around the globe.

You can also visit my website where you (I hope) can find some good links on japanese phone cards.

Cheers :beer:

Root :beer: Hi Bill! :cool2:

Should I say Ouzo for you :question: Hi John !

Steven

bonsoir steven,
i have been wondering where you disappeared to. thought one of my gators got loose and swam to switzerland, then ate you. i'm sure he would have had an awful tummy ache. :ahah::grimace::gna: and got a JOB!!!!! wow, things are lookin' up, hey buddy. :applause::applause::applause: i'm very happy for you mon ami, you know i always have wanted the best for you and your famillie. take care and stay in touch.

later gator,
bill.
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Wed 5th Mar 2008 05:41:53

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In response to Cajunsr1 [99% (631x)] Club+ member: Silver  :
bonsoir steven,
i have been wondering where you disappeared to. thought one of my gators got loose and swam to switzerland, then ate you. i'm sure he would have had an awful tummy ache. :ahah::grimace::gna: and got a JOB!!!!! wow, things are lookin' up, hey buddy. :applause::applause::applause: i'm very happy for you mon ami, you know i always have wanted the best for you and your famillie. take care and stay in touch.

later gator,
bill.
:D

Dear Steven,

Thank you for your very helpful reply to my piece about Hanetsuki. You will be pleased to know that I took your advice and looked at Khedi2's store. Happily on it I found one Hanetsuki card. It was listed under "Games" and described as being a "top". However strewn around the top were serveral Hanetsuki shuttlecocks. Incidentally the Japoanese name for these shuttlecocks is "Hane". Hence my nickname.
This does however highlight the diffculty that I have with the subject. Usually it is only Japanese collectors or phone card dealers who know of the game. But so far I cannot find any Japanese phone card dealers on Delcampe. I say "so far" because I am in the lengthy process of making a list of every dealer on Delcampe and then tying them to their country of origin. I do this on Microsoft Excel so that i can sort them into Country order.
Currently I possess 32 Hanetsuki phone cards. I have scanned them into my computer in a seres of 5 A4 photos. For ease of reference in eMails I have added numbers to each card. I find that this is the easiest way of informing non Japanese people what I am talking about. If you would like me to send you pictures as attachemnts to an eMail please let me know and we can sort something out.
Thanks for replying to me.
Sincerely, Rex
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Sun 7th Sep 2008 07:36:09

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Hanetsuki is a game which is unique to Japan, is played at New Year and has a history going back to the middle ages.
Modern day "Hanetsuki" consists of an ornately decorated paddle shaped bat known in Japan as a "Hagoita" and an equally decorated shuttlecock, known in Japan as a "Hane". (Hence my nickname)
It is a "keeping up game" in that the object is to keep the "Hane" in the air by repeatedly hitting it with the Hagoita. When children play they stand in a circle and hit it to each other . If a player misses and it falls to the ground, he/she is penalised by having their face blackened with a burnt cork.
Originally the game was played by soldiers as a military exercise. It then passed to the ladies, who donned their national costumes and played it at New Year. (1st to 7th January - Pine Decoration Season)
The game then passed to the children who also donned their finery to play it at New Year. However with the advent of the computer the
children lost interest and today the implements remain purely as home decoration for the New Year.
But the specialised craft of making the ornate instruments goes on
being made by craftsmen working throughout the year. Their work is then sold, mainly at a specialised fair held annually in the middle of December. The stalls are set up outside the Sensoji Temple in the Asagawa District of Tokyo.
From the earliest period of the Japanese Phone Card this game has been pictured on various cards. I have been attempting the difficult task of making a collection of them. Why difficult? Well no dealer seems to separate the "Hanetsuki" cards out into an individual theme.
I once trawled thru the 45,000 cards on Delcampe and found 5 of them. Can anyone please help in my task?



Hi Rex,
I saw your messages.
May be I have some. Have you checked my 45,000 Japanese phonecards at Delcampe already.?

I still have 1,5 million cards from Japan, which I still have to search.
May be you can send me some images from these cards and I can try to find for you.

Do you need my email adress?
Kind regards,
Amai
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  Hanetsuki - Japan     Sun 7th Sep 2008 09:43:57

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Hi Rex,
I saw your messages.
May be I have some. Have you checked my 45,000 Japanese phonecards at Delcampe already.?

I still have 1,5 million cards from Japan, which I still have to search.
May be you can send me some images from these cards and I can try to find for you.

Do you need my email adress?
Kind regards,
Amai


bonjour amai,

are you from japan? if so i send greetings. i once live on okinawa with my dad, who was in the air force and stationed there in 1953. i was 3 years old and had a mamasan to help look after me, my brother and sister to help my mom. she was very nice. and then when i was gravely wounded as a medic in the vietnam war, i was evacuated to the army hospital in yokohama where i stayed for a month. the mamasans again cared for me with great diligence and kindness. i have never forgotten the benevolence of the nippon people. i :bowdown: to them. and i do have a very sweet japanese neighbor for many years also.

amities,
cajunsr.
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